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we will not go off the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner says he is going to do everything we can to avoid the cliff. but acknowledged there is a chance he canal stop it. jamie? >> eric: peter doocy comprehensive report. >> jamie: thank you. >> eric: president obama hit the road on friday to try to sell his plan to the american people. but is that his -- is that what needed to make a deal? bring in max schlapp, political director under president bush. former democratic congressman from texas, martin frost. matt and martin, welcome sunday morning. good to see you. matt, let me start with you. what do they need, because they are not there now, to get to the point they need to make a deal? >> they have time to pull a deal together. the real concern here is that president obama is drawing lines in the sand. some of the lines might not be able to be crossed by the republicans. that gets people increasingly worried that an overall deal can't be reached. hard to imagine in the short-term before cliff by the end of the year, they can't do something to bridge this in to a conversation next
he cannot promise we won't go off the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner says he is doing everything he can to avoid the cliff but acknowledged that there is a chance we will in fact go over the edge. >> thank you. >> shannon: now if the country does go over the fiscal cliff marx worry there could be cutback to entitlement programs like social security and medicare and programs that the government uses to keep you healthy. joinings now, registered nurse and republican congresswoman from tennessee diane black. former california insurance commissioner, democratic congressman john giramendi. welcome to you both. >> good morning. >> thank you for having us. >> shannon: something to keep an eye on the issue of doctor reimbursement fee under medicare. if nothing happens those will drop by 27%. come january 1. we know ra lot of doctors are limiting the number of medicare patients they will take in. if they don't get the numbers up what happens next? >> this is why we need reform over medicare. we know we are not going to cut doctors by 27%. if we were to do that, there would be no access for s
on avoiding the fiscal cliff, john boehner has a press conference at 11:30 after his meeting with tim geithner. connell: we will speak with -- see what the speaker has to say. with all this back and forth, a decent amount of speculation that a deal is starting to take shape. look at the reporting from politico and they put numbers to its save a framework looks like this. taxes for revenue would rise by $1.2 trillion. families making them to $50,000 would see higher taxes which we have been expecting and entitlement programs would be cut by $400 billion, most coming for medicare and, quote, end of war savings peter barnes and others reported many times as being dubious because they counted the previous budget you have another trillion plus in cuts. that according to politico is the deal, steve murphy is a former campaign manager for dick gephardt and in d.c. today. from the democratic of view anything i just say or just said sound unreasonable? >> i don't think it sounds reasonable except i don't think it is enough. i don't think either party is being realistic about the enormity of the debt an
to talk specifics about how to avoid the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner said there's been no progress in the last two weeks. and the u.n. general assembly voted to recognize palestine as a non-member observer state. the u.s. was one of only nine states voting no. and, you've heard the term "glacial pace"? not exactly, says one director who's scaled enough ice, to know better. hari sreenivasan has more. >> sreenivasan: filmmaker james balog spent years documenting dramatic changes in arctic glaciers. i talked with him about his documentary "chasing ice." that's our science thursday feature. on art beat, digital touchups and tricks are common in photography today. we talk to a curator at the metropolitan museum of art about an exhibit that explores the history of photo manipulation before photoshop. plus, on making sense, economics correspondent paul solman ponders government versus private spending. all that and more is on our website newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> brown: and again, to our >> suarez: and that's the "newshour" for tonight. i'm ray suarez. >> brown: and i'm jeffre
to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone for the first time in days. no details on that conversation. the two sides are at a state mail over raising attacks on incomes over $250,000. an international news alert. there are fears that the syrian government is getting ready to drop a nerve gas on his own people. the gas is being mixed in bombs for potential use. as ainsley earhart reports, the united states is promising consequences for the gas is excused against the syrian people. >> reporter: it appears there has been an alarming escalation in the syrian civil war, the country's government preparing nerve gas bombs and awaiting the orders from president assad to use them. u.s. officials relying on surveillance said there was no evidence that this had begun. >> we have sent an up mistakeable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> reporter: a senior u.s. official telling fox the gas bombs must be used within 60 days in order to be viable inform deployed. the gas could till th
in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? john boehner's already $800 billion in increased tax revenue, not necessarily raising the marginal tax rate on the wealthy, but capping deductions, limiting loopholes, are you with the speaker of the house on that? >> unfortunately, wolf, the policies of president obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as f
. wall street initially fell after house speaker boehner said there'd been no progress on a fiscal cliff deal. but stocks rose later, on news that the economy grew at an annual rate of 2.7% in the third quarter. the dow jones industrial average gained more than 36 points to close well above 13,021. the nasdaq rose 20 points to close at 3,012. the united nations general assembly voted today to recognize palestine as a non- member observer state. the tally was 138 to nine, with 41 abstentions. the u.s. voted no. it came after palestinian president mahmoud abbas appealed to the world body to issue the birth certificate of palestine. >> we did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is israel. rather, we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence, and this is palestine. >> sreenivasan: palestinians said the vote would strengthen their hand in future peace talks with israel. but the israeli ambassador to the u.n., ron prosor, warned that the palestinians are turning their backs on peace. >> for as long as president abb
hand on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner's facing something of a revolt within gop's ranks over his budget plan. we'll have the latest from washington when we come back. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff have ran to something of a holt. john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his bung budget plan. another shanghai surprise. china's mainland market surge nearly 3%. more austerity. plus, austerity measures are hitting european consumers. retail sales in october fall much more than expected. september also revised sharply to the downside. >>> it was a flat day really for european stocks, slightly negative for u.s. stocks yesterday. we are a little bit higher. the dow is currently some 43 points above fair value. the nasdaq is around four points above fair value. the s&p 500 at the moment is around about four points above fair value. european stocks are up half a percent earlier. we have come off those highs. eurozone pmis a little bit better than expected. but still deeply in contraction territory. uk services pmis dipped
againsy on the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner is demanding a face-to-face meeting with president obama and the pentagon is preparing for the worst. >> it could take a week to clear out the backlog of ships. we're live at the port of los angeles straight ahead. tracy: time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. it has been a wild ride. a lot of it has to do with apple, right? >> the big picture, markets are higher. apple has come under pressure. let's look at the major market averages. the dow is up triple digits, completely erasing losses over last couple days. posting a gain for the week. tech-heavy nasdaq pom cost it is moving to the because weighed down by apple. research and findings have found that apple faces intense competition in the tablet market for ipad and ipad mini and probably will lose market share to android and even microsoft systems. you're seeing apple down 28, almost 29 bucks. a terrible day if you're a shareholder hoping to get to the upside. a lot of folks hope it will get back to 700. not today. look a
? >> it all depends on what happens with the fiscal cliff. right now, there's boehner yelled out by his own party, the conservative part of the wing, and also the left. he's in a really, really tight spot and an ultimate binary trade. if something good happens, we'll rocket higher. if something bad happens, expect the worst right now. that's the thing right now. it's a yes or no trade. liz: congressional know it all at fox news calls it rrpublican on republican violence. hard to get a deal in the own party, special interests, the markets, whatever happens, we want to make money. where did you see the flows today? >> -- >> just a sec. we picked through the numbers, the stock is falling, of course, i'm sure making the shorts happy. clearly, looking at the stock, again, it had been up for the past two and a half weeks, but it's gotten hammered since the six month high reached six months ago. larry, quickly, though, where were the flows today that you saw? >> not many at all. i think people are talking about putting money into financials and materials and out of energy and utilitities. not a lo
the democrats of not offering any serious proposals to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and shortly after the white house and the democrats answered that the republicans had not offered any of their own plans. is this something that's going to be able to be taken care of while you're still a representative or is it going to land in your lap when you move to the other chamber? >> you know, i hope we get it done, obviously. we want to avoid the cliff. it is a little troubling that we don't have any real plans or oers on the spending side. i think on the revenue side it's pretty clear by knew republicans are willing to give up more revenue, but we've got to see a balance. there's got to be spending cuts and if those have been offered, i'm not sure what they are. >> suarez: are you one of those members who's staked out a position on whether it has to be rates or effective revenue and not rates? >> well, i think it can be effective revenue. obviously it depends on where you put the level of deductions that can be taken. so i'd rather not raise rates at all. i think it can be done without that.
's a deal struck on the fiscal cliff. i think boehner is trying to exert control. leaders try to exert control before these votes happen. sometimes weeks before. so this was a warning to house conservatives, that if you go against leadership and a deal is struck, there are going to be consequences. >> yeah. so chuck todd, let's talk about the other side of pennsylvania avenue. the president of the united states yesterday speaking with john boehner. and they wisely decided not to characterize that phone call, thank god for the sake of america. and the world. also, you had tim geithner. good god. >> he didn't say anything he hasn't said before. >> geithner on the sunday shows was saying oh, yeah, the republicans are going to back down. they're going to cower in the corner, tremble and whatever. and then yesterday he said we're going to go over the cliff if republicans don't do what we want. i'm curious, what's the white house attitude right now? are they willing to go over the cliff? is geithner right? >> are they willing to go over the cliff? i guess they are, but they also don't believ
boehner and in the white house, folks like this in washington using the term fiscal cliff, it takes to become a reality and take on language of its own. >> eliot: it seems to me that there is an element of hysteria being created and used by some folks. you have fix the debt coalition that is pounding away at this terror, and then you see cmbc and this business interest. then they come in and ask for a huge cut in corporate taxes. one doesn't follow the other. is this an element of a trojan horse being used by folks to ramp up hysteria, and then get policy changes that aren't even related to the issue they're talking about? >> yeah, the real issue that folks need to keep their eye on is the topic of tax reform. a broader tax reform. it's unclear whether we'll see that as part of the deal that happens before the so-called fiscal cliff and fiscal slope by the end of this year or in 2013, but we could see real corporate tax reform, possibly lowering in this year or next. these things can get lost in the details when folks are talking about the bush tax cuts and medicare and medicaid and
'm ready to throw the fiscal cliff off a physical cliff. >> eliot: if i see john boehner give the same speech. >> john boehner, they voted for it in 2008 and again in 2012 john boehner making a fuss on this is like the man who lost lotto and still demanding
speaker boehner says fiscal cliff talks, well, they have gone, quote, almost nowhere. that is encouraging, isn't it? when will both sides finally make progress towards a deal? "wall street journal's" gerald seib met with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. he will be here to tell us what he had to say. tracy: i'm excited. new study says which americans pay the most in taxes and probably not who you think or maybe it is. it raises questions who is really not paying their fair share. ashley: i think it is me by the way. if fiscal cliff wasn't bad enough, food prices will spike in the new year, you remember the drought, plus inaction in congress will cost you more at the checkout. tracy: i remember jeff flock out in those fields right? ashley: can't forget that. tracy: time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. lauren simonetti on the floor of new york stock exchange today. we got another sign of consumer weakness, didn't we? >> tracy and ashley, consumer spending fell in october, first decline in five months that is keeping a cap on stocks. all three major averages in the red. dow turne
. earlier, speaker boehner speaking about the fiscal cliff. now it is president obama. let's listen. >> we have emerged not yet where we need to be, but we certainly have made progress. the reason we have made progress in part is because of the outstanding management and productivity and gains and efficiencies that you have been able to achieve in each and every one of your companies. i have said this to some of the small groups, let me repeat it to the large groups, i am passionately rooting for your success. if the companies in this room are doing well, then, small businesses and medium size businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then, folks get jobs, consumers get confidence and we will be able to compete around the world. now, the good news is, despite the extraordinary challenges we have seen over the last four years, there is progress in some key sectors of our economy. we have seen housing finally begin to bounce back for the first time. that has an enormous ripple effect throughout the economy. many of you, over the last two or th
obama and speaker boehner talked about the fiscal cliff. it was by phone. both sides agreed that they would not talk about the details. what we do know is that it has not led yet to any major breakthroughs. we want to get to congressman steve latourette, republican from the state of ohio. he is leaving congress, decided not to run for re-election, citing gridlock as a big reason why. we appreciate your time with us this morning. >> thank you. >> can we start with syria first before we get to the fiscal cliff? we know that there's this red line that hillary clinton has talked about. but nbc news has reported that syria is loading chemical weapon components on to bombs, which could -- makes us think, well, what's the next step? to what degree does this mean military action for the united states? >> couple of things, the nbc report is unconfirmed. the other piece of news is that the secretary is expected to meet with the russian foreign minister in dublin, i believe, and talk specifically about getting the okay to put in place economic sanctions that would cripple the syrian go
of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he
interview with house speaker john boehner on the fiscal cliff negotiations. chris will talk to tim geithner. a "fox news sunday" you do not want to miss. check your local listings. consumer spending was down .2 of a percentage point in october. the dow finished ahead. the nasdaq lost two. europe's economy remains in the tank. 17 euro zone countries have a combined unemployment rate of 11.7%. that is the highest since the introduction of the common currency in 1999. 18.7 million people are out of work for the euro zone. pain and greece have jobless rates of more than 25%. back at home, the question of who will be the nation's top diplomat in president obama's second term continues to intersect with complaints about how the administration handled the libya terror attack. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with the continuing saga of what susan rice knew and when she knew it. >> since it's classified briefing on capitol hill two weeks ago, lawmakers stressed that ambassador susan rice had asked for the unclassified intelligence on the benghazi attack, including the controversi
the looming fiscal cliff. but not to each other. the president was making his case on the road while boehner was dismissing the white house proposal as a joke. cnn senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins us live from the capital. dana, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, joe, it turns out he laughed at geithner when he proposed the white house package which includes $1.6 trillion in tax increases. instead, today mcconnell floated to "the wall street journal" the idea of revenues by medicare and eligibility age, but democrats are very dug in. they say anything that doesn't include tax increases on the wealthy is a nonstarter. a day after getting a white house proposal the republicans greeted as a joke, they're not laughing. >> now, the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal and much to my disappointment it wasn't a serious one. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner rushed to the cameras to respond to the president's campaign-style event at a suburban philadelphia toy factory where mr. obama tried to rally support for maintaining the bush-era tax rat
, the president offered a tough fiscal cliff proposal to congress, one that aides to john boehner say -- wait for it -- he's already rejected. of course he has. joining me to talk about all things politics, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and ross doufit. how many seconds was it, do you think, gentlemen, let me start with you, frank, before john boehner rejected out of hand president obama's attempt to try and do a fiscal cliff deal? >> with $1.6 trillion in new taxes, i think probably half a second. >> when you see the apparent attempt at a bipartisan lunch going on today between obama and romney, it was all very sweet and everything, the reality is the picture was about as uncomfortable as the relationship is between the two sides, and again, frank, how do we get to a better place in washington? how do we get these guys to realize, let me throw this at you. i interviewed mike tyson an hour ago. fantastic interview in many ways. what i found really fascinating and relevant to this, he talks about when he goes back to the streets he grew up in in new york, what real people care about.
's comments on the fiscal cliff were a huge favor to speaker john boehner. >>> plus, our news nation gut check. this congress is on track to becoming least productive class since the '40s. do you think the next congress will get anything more done? check us out on our news nation tumbler page. you'll find behind the scenes pictures you're looking for. newsnation.tumbler.com. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. >>> president obama and mitt romney met today for a private lunch at the white house. their first meeting since they traded barbs in a contentious election. romney has been keeping a pretty low profile in the three weeks since the election. he has made no public appearances. there you see him. unlike losing candidates in the past, he had no job in washington to return to. nbc's kristen welker live at the white house. let's get into this. the
john boehner yesterday talking about the fiscal cliff declaring that a stalemate now exists. as both sides dig in their heels. the gop demanding entitlement cuts in exchange for revenue. nancy pelosi, meanwhile, threatening to take action to enforce a vote on extending middle class tax cuts if republican leaders don't bring it to the floor next week. want to bring in democratic congressman peter welch from vermont. congressman welch, always a pleasure. let's talk -- >> thank you. >> let's talk about entitlements here. are you willing to put entitlements on the table if republicans agree to more revenues through tax increases on the wealthy? >> yes. and the president is, too. essentially the president has made an opening offer. $1.6 trillion in new revenue from the top 2% and about $400 billion in medicare savings over the course of the next ten years. now, the next move, actually, is speaker boehner's counteroffer, whatever that may be. he has a very tough position and my view, the speaker understands that mitt romney, who ran on the platform of not raising taxes lost and the speaker
stories. >>> president obama and house speaker john boehner chatting by phone about the fiscal cliff. no details or word of progress or future talks with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done. another prominent republican is breaking ranks. tom coburn, a leading conservative and fiscal hawk saying he'd prefer raising taxes on the wealthy as a way to raise revenues. >>> a bitter turf war between twitter and instagram elle cl escalating. no one on twitter will be able to see the images posted on instagram. instagram's goal is getting people to post more photos on their site. >>> a man cannot have any more children until he shows proof that he can actually afford those children. 44-year-old corey curtis is charged with failure to support two of the nine children that he's fathered with six women. he owes $85,000 and says he is ready to abide by the judge's order. >> good idea. >> all right. the grammy nominations announced in style with a star-studded concert, jay z and kanye west were among the six artists tied for the most nominations, six apiece. the grammy awards ceremony, music
for the middle class. >>heather: thank you. >>gregg: from the fiscal cliff to will i don'ting the debt ceiling speaker boehner disagreeing with president obama under the white house proposal. the president would have the power to raise the debt limit on his own, whenever he wants, as needed. speaker boehner saying congress isn't budging on that issue and here is what he had to say on fox news sunday. >> congress will never give up the power and i made it clear to the president that when we get to the debt limit we need to cut some reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit. it is the only way to leverage the political process to produce more change than if left alone. >>gregg: you can see more of the remarks on "fox news sunday" at the top of the hour. >> extreme weather on the west coast flood advisories in effect for storm ravaged parts of northern california as another storm bringing heavy rain and police and fire officials wanting the napa and russian rivers expected to break their banks. and now, streaming live from northern california. >>reporter: yes, the banks are abo
want to say that i commend john boehner for his valiant attempts to stop the fiscal cliff and to make a deal without giving up growth principles. but when you say conservatives don't support boehner, what is eric cantor, what is paul ryan? what is jeb henesling if he's not a conservative? what is tom price if he's not a conservative? what exactly are you smoking? the top conservatives in the house support boehner. >> well, i actually don't think that somebody like tom price would if he has his choice of who he could pick out of everyone. we should have the power of self-determination. we shouldn't get seniority decide, this person should be the next person -- >> look. he is running the house. he's the speaker of the house. you confuse that with running the conservative movement. >> well, then why don't you come out and say, we shouldn't raise taxes. boehner came out and said we should raise taxes. >> i think boehner is doing the best he can to prevent marginal tax rates from rising. i think that's a very noble cause after conservatives and republicans lost in the last election. i thin
and house speaker boehner are talking, but there is still no word of progress on the so-called fiscal cliff or the president's ultimatum. silence indicate a deal in the works or something too ugly for them to contemplate?@ we'll have the latest for you from the white house. white house correspondent ed henry here in just moments, but, first, the money line in hoping washington might get a deal done driving a modestly bullish mood on wall street at the end of the session. investors cheering news in a decline in jobless claims, and household wealth in the country grew by $1.7 trillion, to the highest level in five years, talk about a positive indicator for consumer purchasing. the dow jones industrial up 40 points, the s&p up five, and nasdaq rose 15.5 points. volume? a billion shares lighter than yesterday, but above the average of 3.1 billion trading on the board today. apple rebounded from yesterday's worst date performance in four years, a gain of $8.45 today with the ceo saying apple will move imac computer production to the country in the new year. garmin stock higher to replace rr donl
speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
, there are just 26 days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. president obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on wednesday while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, gd morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. the president will cross over the potomac into northern virginia to meet with a family who says their taxes don't go up, they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the pr side of this. much more important, the context of the deal, keet players yesterday picked up the phone. phone call relatively brief and substantive. details remain elusive. it was shorter, sources say, to last week's 28-minute conversation described them as curt, direct and frank. no one familiar with this call used such barbed words. it also occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement
that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> the white house rejects a republican counter offer. >> john boehner sent a proposal that offers more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions but no tax increase. >> he will not sign an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. >> folks worried about the fiscal cliff, are you like me? are you worried about it and have no idea what it is? >> according to state tv iran's revolutionary guard captured a u.s. drone after it entered the iriranian air space over the persian gulf. >> but u.s. navy official says there are no missing drones. >> prince william and his wife katherine, expecting their first child. >> after the duchess was admitted to hospital. >> that child could grow up to be one of the most powerful unemployed people in the world. >> a search is under way in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. >>> rg3, he made opportunities. >> 17-16 washington redskins. >> all that -- >> why don't you shut up? >> you are an embarrassment. >>
television moments ago, getting parts of this interview says speaker boehner's proposal on the fiscal cliff is still out of balance. that is a quote the president has given about the letter and the proposal that you sent to capitol hill. realistically, when do you need to get a deal done to avoid the country from going off the fiscal cliff? know there is limited days. >> yes. jenna: when does an actual deal have to be done so it gets through those logistical processes we know need to be done in both the house and the senate? >> the sooner we can get a deal the better. speaker boehner, as i said, he, the day after the election, said, okay, we'll put tax revenue on the table. let's start the negotiations. you know this can be done. president reagan and tip o'neill back in the early '80s, they negotiated a deal to save social security and address tax reform and the other entitlement programs, the spending --. jenna: if i could. reagan famously said trust but verify. >> yes. jenna: why should we trust you? why should we trust lawmakers in office now they can do this? >> because i would say we'r
. lawmakers wrestling to make a deal to keep us from going over the so-called fiscal cliff taking to the airwaves. house speaker john boehner rejecting the proposal and calling talks a waste of time and treasury secretary timothy geithner standing firm saying there will be no deal without raising taxes for top earners. a new and unusual storm system bringing inches of rain and strong winds to northern california and parts of the pacific northwest. today's round predicted to be the worst of series that have come already, bringing flooding problems in several areas, but there is more rain to come. the taliban targeting a joint u.s.-afghan base killing at least five afghans. and the gun battled lasted two hours, no americans were hurt in the attack. new developments tonight for america's strongest ally and friend in the middle east, israel. it follows last week's decision by the united nations general assembly to upgrade the palestinian status from observer entity to non-member state, a move both israel and the u.s. voted against. today, israel announcing a decision of its own, the p
out their fiscal cliff counteroffer to the white house. includes $800 billion in new tax revenue. that is roughly half what the president was aiming for. 300 billion in discretionary spending cuts. 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts. now the white house responding just moments ago saying quote, the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. they don't like it. i'm joined by dan mitch chill from the cato institute for more on this. dan what do you think. these are a lot of things to occur just in the past few hours. do you feel like there is progress being made? >> there is progress but progress in the wrong direction. the number one thing to understand already even if all the tax cuts were made permanent, tax revenues projected to grow by 6.2% a year. so what they're really debating about how much should it grow even faster than that in order to enable bigger government. 100% of our fiscal problem is on the spending side. obama is being very inflexible on that. republicans i'm afraid will get taken to the cleaners just what happened in 1990 when read
respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> reporter: so wolf, it's a step forward that they're talking, but in essence, where we stand right now, it's still a stalemate. >> any indication that the vice president, secretary of treasury, others are talking with top people on capitol hill? meeting face to face and going through these items line by line? >> reporter: my understanding is that the white house is not going to start negotiating the details unt
boehner's offer in the fiscal cliff talks is that this is going to happen no matter what. they talked about holding the line -- megyn: no, wait, wait, wait, let me interrupt because i just don't want to confuse the two, because all the taxes are confusing. i'm saying this surtax, this .9 income tax surtax, and then this 3.8% surtax on nearly all capital gains, that is happening irrespective of what happens with the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> almost certainly. unless somehow it became part of the negotiations to turn it off, but i'm not hearing that. megyn: okay. so then on top of that you got to fiscal cliff discussions in washington where the president wants to raise the income tax on top earners by another 3% or so in addition to this, these taxes you and i were just discussing. >> yeah. and that's a crucial point, because obama has repeatedly said he wants to go back to clinton era rates, but that ignores this new surtax at the beginning of the year. if they take the top rate from 35 to 39.6, it'll actually be 43.4 on investment income because we'll have that additional surtax o
pushed into political relevance. >> yes, for example, the fight over the fiscal cliff is taking place between speaker boehner and the white house. they put republicans in the senate in a rare type of position where they are in the game, but they are not the leaders of the game. see what is going on in the senate in general. we're republicans should have the majority of the senate, if not highly ontological candidates were nominated by the party base. thinking of someone like richard murdoch in indiana. there's no reason the democrats should not hold that seat. they are putting republicans in the senate at a disadvantage. >> the other thing is that ted cruz is a tea party candidate, marco rubio is a tea party canada. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> there are mistakes made. there are good choices made. i'm just saying there is a capacity to make that choice and those that are good communicators of a conservative vision. greg: i was looking at some of the most recent polls, and it looks that republicans will get the blame if we go off the fiscal cliff. is that how
comments made by president obama and house speaker john boehner, both expressing optimism on fiscal cliff negotiations in the washington. in a new report from the congressional budget office it says more than half a trillion has been spent on jobless benefits over the past five years. $520 billion in jobless benefits in five years. also part of the debate, whether to extend the deadline to file for additional unemployment benefits beyond the end of the year. spending on food stamps is rising. nearly 15 million households received food stampses in 2011, up 10% from the year before according to new data from the census bureau. it shows you the far reach of the government right now in the safety net in supporting american families. all of that at the core of the debate of what's happening with the fiscal cliff. >>> $7 coffee. starbucks thinks you will pay. coffee connoisseurs can pay $7 for a grande cup of costa rica fincapalamara. it's called mucho deneiro. cultivated from a central american bean known as geisha. it is extremely difficult to produce. the same america who spends $7 on lotter
about why they need to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty you is -- is killing us. >> top economists came to talk about it. president obama and john boehner spoke wednesday but publicly are holding firm on their positions. the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money but insist that bush era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. the stan stand -- stand off and the debt concerns ryan skenke. he's the guidancing with the cochair of the president's deficit commission alan simpson. the group is working to get young people involved in fixing the debt crisis. >> we're trying to connect with our generation in a different way. we're using humor to hook them in and get them to learn about this issue and understand how it effects their lives. >> they want to sign up more than 2 million people to put pressure on both sides. in washington danielle noting ham wjz eyewitn
. margaret brennan, thank you noor. >>> in washington this morning, just 26 days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. president obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on wednesday while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. later on this afternoon the president will travel across the potomac river to northern virginia to meet a middle-class family to make the self-evident point if the there is a deal and taxes are raised by about $2,000 they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the p.r. side of this. much more importantly, for the deal, the two key players yesterday picked up the phone. the phone call relatively brief and substantive, though details remain illusive. shorter, sources say. the last week 28-minute conversation described then as curt, direct and frank. no one with this call used such barbed words and occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >
they caused in the phone call as the country barrels towards the fiscal cliff. with no talks and no progress to avert the looming fiscal cliff, you could say the house has left the building, streaming out of the capitol. tomorrow's session cancelled. with only three work days left this year, they are often criticized. just 16 votes. across the country, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister two things, you give one thing, you have to give pause on what could happen next year. >> reporter: today, president obama and house republicans are locked in a politicalstair staredown. >> we can probably solve it in a week, it is not that tough, we need that breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> although the president seems obsessed about raising taxes on you, we feel it is not the right direction to go. >> reporter: it comes down to a tug of war over taxes. the president's proposal, increasing rates on americans making more than $250,000, to raise 1.6 trillion over a decade. house speaker
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